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Braiman Questions Stone’s Decency, Shame

Lisa Stone said she’ll continue "nagging" Buffalo Grove Village President Jeff Braiman. “I will shut up if you force me to, but you’d probably have to arrest me,” she said.

Periodic battles arose between Village President Jeff Braiman and recalled trustee Lisa Stone Monday night, when Stone made a half-dozen trips to the podium to address issues ranging from water quality to pedophilia.

Braiman, who at one point categorized her behavior as “unbelieveable,” repeatedly pounded his gavel and warned Stone to stay in order

"If you’re going to start attacking people, you’re going to sit down, OK? … I’m going to ask you to just be on target, on topic, please,” he said, when during a discussion about proposed improvements at a gas station she brought up an unrelated complaint about a trustee. During that five-minute period, she also touched on the facility's bathroom plans, free speech and pedophilia.

“There has been a decline in community activism,” Stone said. “Unless this is a Communist country, I think that you’re supposed to allow the public to speak.”

“You’re going to talk about the subject or you’re going to sit down,” Braiman said.

Moments later she did, but she returned to the microphone for the next three agenda items, seeking assurance that no pedophiles live within 600 feet of residents renewing their home daycare permits. When she broached a case that Braiman had handled as an attorney, he again tapped his gavel.

“Do you have no decency? Do you have no shame? Must you always attack people every time you step up here? Do you need some help sitting down?” Braiman asked Stone.

When she returned again to the podium following an update of the village’s ash tree removal plan, another exchange with Braiman began when she warned him not to use up her time by interrupting during her allotted five minutes. 

“Jeff Braiman, you’re running for judge and this is not fair,” Stone said.

“I’m just waiting for you to talk about something that’s relevant,” he replied.

Stone responded by asking whether the Land and Lakes landfill’s composting facility was still open. Village Manager Dane Bragg said the business has a permit from the Illinois Environmental Protection Agency.

Other comments by Stone included her concern over the proximity of bike paths to the landfill, requests that the village restore to its website video footage of the board meetings held during her tenure, and a query as to whether Veterinary Specialty Center uses lake water or groundwater. 

When Braiman said the business is on Lake Michigan water, Stone referred to the nearby Pekara subdivision in unincorporated Lake County when she replied, “Are we yet bringing the Lake Michigan water to the 5,000 people right next to this facility?” 

Their final exchange was the longest, when Stone returned to the podium to speak for 10 minutes during the “questions from the audience” portion of the meeting. During that time, she touched on topics including stormwater management at the site of the proposed downtown development, previous municipal election campaigns, State Rep. Sid Mathias’ recent public separation from her, and her 2010 recall.

“I got recalled Nov. 2, 2010, all for just being so pesty, you know, and I broke Robert’s Rules over and over, but I kept to the constitution,” she said.

“I was supposed to have my term until April 2013. So when I make a commitment, I’m in. It was for four years, so I’m probably going to be nagging at you and on your back probably when you’re no longer sitting on the board or any board, but that’s my opinion,” she told Braiman.

“I do talk circular and comprehensive because I have very little time and you guys taught me how to speed talk, by always hitting the gavel and saying, ‘Trustee Stone, shut up,’” she said.

“Is there a question?” Braiman wondered, seven minutes into her comments.

“I’m just looking for good government, honest voices, standing up,” Stone said.

“I want (lake) water for the Pekara (subdivision), for those 5,000 people,” she added.

J October 18, 2012 at 02:51 PM
Could you please teach Lisa Stone how to behave so that she can learn to work with people to get a WIN-WIN relationship going? Her route is causing LOSE- LOSE relationships to continue to blossom. Thank you,
J October 18, 2012 at 03:00 PM
Whether or not someone is running for Judge does not give Lisa Stone the right to try to publicly humiliate another human being. This gives even more credibility to the Village president that he would indeed make a good judge since he is trying to stay on task and provide fairness to the item being discussed at hand. Perhaps she can take a lesson, from her husband, and just stay out of it. Unless, she is really a 'front' for his personal agendas and it would hurt his career if he addressed them? Hum...I wonder what SHS in Lincolnshire would think about her approach to government?
Civis October 18, 2012 at 03:10 PM
Lose that picture of her. It makes my cat bark.
Walter White October 18, 2012 at 03:25 PM
Agreed. Jeff has acted admirably throughout this whole debacle.
Patty October 18, 2012 at 05:52 PM
Is there anyway she can be banned from the village meetings since she is so disruptive and disrespectful?
While getting some kind of 'restraining order' to keep her out and thus not waste everyone's time does seem like something most would want, it would then become a 'first ammendment issue' and I can just see the court battles brewing so she'd still wind up wasting everyone's time and VBG's money even more than when she was a trustee and now does as an 'activist'.
Walter White October 18, 2012 at 07:14 PM
Sure but if she does not follow the rules of the community participation period which are well documented and which she never does, can't they have someone escort her out?
WW ... That is another option entirely. I would believe that could be done. I just didn't see any kind of 'ban' working. If she's given a chance to follow the rules and doesn't and then pays the consequences, that is entirely different. She was given the option to do as everyone else does and violated those rules. She then should face the 'punishment' and if that is escorting her from the building, then so be it. I think she's been given more leeway than any other person would have gotten and she just continues to abuse her privilege to address the board. Now, for something completely different, The Larch ... The Larch ... and how can we ensure that potable water is being fed to this majestic denizen of the forest? Who is ensuring that it isn't being planted too close to any home that has a small compost pile? What became of those tapes containing the missing song from The Screaming Tree Weasels ? .... oh ... brain hurt ... sudden attack of Stonitis!!!!
Stuart Tindall October 18, 2012 at 07:45 PM
Ask yourself, how long would Lisa Stone fight a court case for at a cost of how much money to BG?
ed conner October 18, 2012 at 07:49 PM
When I watched the video of the last board meeting, it just kind of made me sad. She truly believes she is doing the right thing, but she is hopelessly unable to communicate in any rational way and, what is worse, she simply cannot control her urges to randomly lash out at members of the board. I can't help feeling sorry for her as she clearly has some kind of personality disorder. It is really time for someone who cares about her to get her some help.
Mark Bushey October 18, 2012 at 07:56 PM
From the Villages Code of Ordinances: http://library.municode.com/index.aspx?clientId=16229 "The Village President shall eject from the meeting any person, other than an elected official, who interferes with the orderly conduct of the meeting or who persists in disorderly, disruptive conduct and may call on any officer of the police department for assistance. "
Walter White October 18, 2012 at 08:01 PM
Hoo-rah!
ec ... AMEN! People tried helping her to learn how to do it the proper and civil way, i.e. read Roberts Rules of Order, but she refuses to it appears. After a while it was obvious that it was a losing battle trying to get her to follow the same code of conduct and rules that everyone else does as she just feels she is 'above all that' and has stated she'll break any rules she doesn't agree with.
MB, Oh if only they would actually enforce that rule. I'm of the opinion they don't as it would just add to her 'feelings of martydom' and she would try to go to court, remember hipcheck16, and would have no care how much money of VBG's she wasted as she'd still feel she was 'right and above it all'.
DeAnn Glover October 18, 2012 at 09:14 PM
Ed, please don't feel too sorry for Lisa. I served on the Buffalo Grove Village Board for 16 years, and I tried to do a good job serving the citizens of the village. When Lisa was elected, the business of the village was difficult to conduct due to here constant grandstanding & acting crazy during the meetings. Meetings that normally ended around 10:30 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. went as late at 12:30 or 1:00 a.m. In fact the first meeting when she was sworn in went until 3:00 a.m. & I ended up in the hospital having surgery to remove blood clots from my entire left leg. There is so much more, that I can go on for pages & pages. Lisa, screamed, lied & used innuendo to try & make myself & the the VB members at that time appear to be dishonest. She was recalled on November 2, 2010, & the VB was finally able to get back to doing what we were elected to do without all the drama & acting out by Lisa, serving the citizens of BG. She continues to act out, & unfortunately, not a lot can be done about it. She does not realize that nobody cares what she has to say anymore. She is the laughing stock of Buffalo Grove. Oh, she has her little coalition, & she has her kool-aide drinkers that follow her around like sick puppy dogs, but that is about it. So, Ed unless you have born the brunt of her evilness, you have no idea what she is capable of & just how far she will go. She is one scary woman!!
Recall Supporter October 18, 2012 at 10:00 PM
She posted the other day on her Facebook that she and husband Gary, are parting as best friends. Guess he can't deal with her either. Oh then she deleted that post. Why would you post to 4700 people that your marriage is over?
Walter White October 18, 2012 at 10:42 PM
Because you are a lunatic.
susie October 18, 2012 at 11:36 PM
Wow! I just watched the video of the VBG meeting. Absolutely no point-on discussion, constant babbling, and couldn't keep the focus. With all the issues we incur in our lives daily, from village to state then coast-to-coast, we have Lisa Stone. Its to obvious with elections so close, this was truly her way of another smear campaign to keep her dead issues alive, her name to fame, with no recourse or action (as usual). The Village Trustees have to be so complimented. As Lisa attempts to pull ANYONE to join her open discussion, everyone looks away. Watch the last closing 10 minutes.... Lisa is the only one left in the audience.
Roxanne Helgeson-Cuitino October 19, 2012 at 01:08 AM
Ms Stone is obviously mentally ill. Her family needs to get her help. WOW!
Patrick Madigan October 19, 2012 at 03:09 AM
Maybe she has a mental condition like Bi-Polar, or a Napoleon Complex that isn't being treated.
J October 19, 2012 at 03:26 AM
Ok...so..I caught the end of the Oct 15 rebroadcast of the Village Board meeting and I couldn't really understand Ms. Stone since her voice was more muffled than clear. Not sure what she was saying or if she was speaking too close to the microphone. Unfortunately, in my attempt to try to hear and understand what she was saying, happened to notice something very odd. While standing at the podium trying to talk seriously, her lack of sleeves and choker necklace gave the illusion that she was not wearing anything on top and the white laptop was blocking her view. Sorry, that is what I saw. Please dress appropriately when speaking to the Village Board as well as to project a better image to the general public. Thank you.
ed conner October 19, 2012 at 03:14 PM
DeAnn, I hear you loud and clear, but I am sympathetic to her behavior only because she so clearly has an illness. In addition to the random, incoherent rants, her compulsion to drop names (Obama, Biden, 60 Minutes, Andy Shaw, the FBI) and make personal comments about Board members demonstrate a streak of paranoia that is quite disturbing. Mentally healthy, emotionally stable people who have some semblance of a grasp on reality simply do not behave the way she does.
Dolly October 20, 2012 at 06:00 AM
Send RainGirl a bill for alll the time and money wasted....that should shut her up! Her favorite word is "anyway...."
RELENTLESSCRITIC October 20, 2012 at 06:11 PM
Let's face it folks, this behavior has been escalating and becoming increasingly more erratic and disruptive over the past couple of years. I've always felt that tossing Stone and/or banning her would only feed her prodigious ego and strong desire to be viewed as a martyr. No more. As a taxpayer, I've had enough or her disruptions of village business and the complete waste of tax dollars she causes. Additionally, her behavior has caused untold embarrassment to the village and damage to its reputation. It is time for the Board to take serious action to prevent her from using the meetings as her own personal platform for revenge against them. Let her do it on her own time and money- NOT OURS. She has not had a single supporter with her in months- so it is obvious that no one else cares about her rambling non-issues. Time to have her removed using an legal means necessary. Let her make a spectacle of herself. Let her squeal about her rights to free speech being violated...but let her do it from the parking lot. The time is now. Enough catering to her personal agendas and vendettas. Enough trying to be tolerant and respectful to her- she has not earned it. Everyone needs to call or write to Jeff Braiman and the rest of the BG board and demand that they put an end to her behavior immediately. If they can't control her then we may have to elect some people who will.
Sandy Klein October 20, 2012 at 09:10 PM
As I've stated in previous posts, the board looks weak and the fact that they remain so out of control while she controls the whole meeting with her non-stop interruptions makes the board and BG look like a laughing stock. I was once completely disgusted by Lisa Stone. Now I'm completely disgusted with the board. They just don't have what it takes to take back control. I won't vote for any one of them for any position after seeing how they've not handled this problem on behalf of BG residents. And I'm sorry - but I don't buy for one minute that ejecting her would make her a sympathetic figure or a victim. Not at all. Most of us would have more respect for the board and maybe Stone would finally move on to some other forum or town. Or even better, maybe she would get the help she apparently needs.
Sandy Klein October 20, 2012 at 10:02 PM
Good luck with that. A friend of mine emailed Braiman and never even got a reply. I have no respect for someone who asks the board if they have any questions and then lets this nutcase go on and on with her personal attacks without cutting her microphone and then having her physically removed. He must not have a spine. I liked the guy but having seen him allow this destruction of most of the village board meetings - I've done a complete reversal. He shouldn't be in any position of power. He can't handle it, in my opinion.
susie October 20, 2012 at 11:39 PM
RC and Sandy: The purpose of recall is to remove an individual from office due to lack of performance, which Ms. Stone clearly was as she did not fit-the-bill. Were we all mislead that once WE ALL VOTED HER OUT, and was successful, she still has power of the entire floor? She sincerely believes she is still on the Board. When you watch this last performance, one has to ask ... 'who's on first?" Yes, Sandy, I agree with you, this is the final straw. My concern would now become, are we safe? Who's her next target and are they safe? Who would attend these meetings going forward with her presence?
susie October 21, 2012 at 01:28 AM
Cont'd... As Villages continue to struggle to fill empty store fronts and face financial losses, the only success story I have read lately is the Village of Lake Zurich. So what are they doing that the VBG can't? The constant so called 'agenda' at every meeting, never goes as planned, or is so pushed through because of the constant interruptions by Ms. Stone you sit and wonder, did I just miss something? Control of these meetings, yes I agree, needs to be brought back to the forefront, but by who and when? If this is how the Village wants to continue to conduct day-to-day activities, then I agree, its time to replace Board members and look for future opportunity to grow.
Abigail October 21, 2012 at 02:53 AM
I am amazed that anything gets done in the village with her interference, but then maybe that's her goal. Can the village ban her from village board meetings? If so, why haven't they done so? Relentless Critic is right--this needs to stop.
Joseph Bloseph October 22, 2012 at 01:10 PM
LOL

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